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#1 2010-01-26 07:55:52
- ledhed2222
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0.41.4 doesn't load all of its extensions?
In my ignorance, I didn't realize that 0.41.4 came out months ago; I just installed it. Thanks Hans!!!!
But immediately afterwards I found that iemmatrix, moocow, and tof weren't found by Pd.... Looking in the package contents, I them and added them to the path.
So I have two SIMPLE questions:
1. Why aren't all of the Pd extensions being loaded at startup?
2. When adding extensions to the path, why won't "/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extras" load everything? I had to add the missing libraries one at a time.
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#2 2010-01-26 18:11:03
- Maelstorm
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Re: 0.41.4 doesn't load all of its extensions?
1. My guess is it's because there is a boat load of externals included with Pd-extended, and loading them all on startup would be quite a hassle. Since there isn't really any scrutiny given to the externals added to extended, many of them have the same name, so if they're all loaded on startup and you type in [wrap], for example, you don't know if it's vanilla's [wrap] or zexy's or whatever. As it is right now, I think most people don't use externals from many of the libraries that are loaded by default, so it's kind of a waste of load time anyway. I personally don't think it would be a bad idea to not have any load by default. This would encourage people to document in their patches which libraries are being used so that when they are shared other users won't have a problem figuring out where some unidentified external came from.
2. Similar reason to the one above, I guess. I assume you mean the subfolders. You can still access them without adding them all to the path. You can use [declare] for paths and [import] for libraries. Also, you can add the folder name in the external, like [zexy/wrap], which will not only load the external but will force Pd to use zexy's and not vanilla's. Doing all that also self-documents the patch, which is another reason why I don't think it's all that bad to not load libraries on startup by default.
All that's just speculation, though. I don't actually know the real answers to your questions ;-).
Last edited by Maelstorm (2010-01-26 18:11:55)
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#3 2010-02-22 11:08:38
- sonu panwar
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Re: 0.41.4 doesn't load all of its extensions?
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#4 2010-03-03 18:55:30
- ledhed2222
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Re: 0.41.4 doesn't load all of its extensions?
sonu panwar: this spam is NOT appreciated on this forum.
Can an admin please let him know this as well?
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#5 2010-03-03 19:03:58
- ledhed2222
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Re: 0.41.4 doesn't load all of its extensions?
@ Maelstrom:
sorry, but could you please explain how I might use [declare]?
If I make a patch with just [declare -path "path/external/subdirectory"] and put it inside an external's folder, will that load the subdirectory's objects as well? The help file for [declare] also has a confusing warning about putting [declare] in abstractions.
Thanks
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